Is their a max to deaths? - Guild Wars Forums

Issac · Jun 10, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Is their a max to to the amount of deaths you can get or no?

holababe · Jun 10, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

As far as i know, no there isn't.
People that death-level have insane amounts of deaths

Issac · Jun 10, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

True, I've seen a pic wheir some one had like 99,999,999 or around their so I wasn't sure if that was the max or if he jsut stopped their :S.

Onarik Amrak · Jun 10, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Logically there wouldn't be a limit as it is just a tally.

However, imagine if there was a Y2K thing and the count reset after 999,999,999,999, giving someone Legendary Survivor. Wouldn't that be funny?

holababe · Jun 10, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

That'd be funny, but getting 999,999,999,999 deaths is harder than Legendary Survivor :P

bilateralrope · Jun 10, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Logically there wouldn't be a limit as it is just a tally.

However, imagine if there was a Y2K thing and the count reset after 999,999,999,999, giving someone Legendary Survivor. Wouldn't that be funny?

Except that the number will eventually exceed the amount of space allocated to store that number. Assuming it also stores a 0 value, that would be (2^n)-1 where n is the number of bits allocated to that number. Since numbers are usually stored as 16 or 32 bits, as 16 bits gives 65'535, I'm guessing 32 bit numbers which have a max of 4'294'967'295, assuming exponents aren't used and the number format doesn't support negative values.

So once that is reached, all the bits will be ones. So add one to it and they all become 0 and you want to place a 1 into the non-existent 33rd bit. Now either ANET has put something in place to deal with it, or that 1 will be lost causing your death count to wrap around to 0. If negative values are supported it will first hit an extremely negative value before climbing back up to zero, but shouldn't change the number of deaths needed to reach 0 again.

But we are talking billions of deaths before this happens. If a death farmer farms that many deaths, I say they deserve some recognition for it.

holababe · Jun 10, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

It would take too long. Assuming 1 second per death it'll take 3.17 millenium to get there :P

Kokuyougan · Jun 10, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Not a maximum, per se, but there is a maximum limit on the penalty for deaths. (You get 15% DP per death, can be worked off by earning exp). The current maximum is 60% DP.

Onarik Amrak · Jun 10, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokuyougan

Not a maximum, per se, but there is a maximum limit on the penalty for deaths. (You get 15% DP per death, can be worked off by earning exp). The current maximum is 60% DP.

But that's not what we're talking about.

Griff Mon · Jun 10, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

One guy posted a thread here where he celebrated his 1,000,000 death with a screen shot documenting the event. He did this by luring Minoutars in the Crystal desert to a rez shrine and AFK most of it.

Issac · Jun 11, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I guess I'll just try this for fun lol, don't have much else to do.

Nero_Fayth · Jun 11, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself.

As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything.

If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

Jaythen Tyradel · Jun 11, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth

Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself.

As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything.

If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

so wait...you saying there is a program that you use to can change (aka hack) GW client info?
...>_>...
not sure you want to be doing that or advertising that...

EDIT: Ok, I did some reading about the program. Not as bad as I first thought, but it still seems iffy.

Aecum · Jun 11, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

im just wondering if arenanet introduces a "zombie" title

Onarik Amrak · Jun 11, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

It would be too easy to exploit and in essence would be another Defender of Ascalon title.

Diddy bow · Jun 11, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

It would be too easy to exploit and in essence would be another Defender of Ascalon title.

Like every other title isnt exploitable, and isnt canthan explorer just elonian exp for antoher place think of it as a "pre ldoa" ^^.

holababe · Jun 11, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth

Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself.

As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything.

If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

Is that the new WPE Pro version? After I quit WoW I wanted my screenshots back, but I???d uninstalled everything so I dl???ed a emulator and had to change some stuff. Then I found out I could just give myself GM privileges lol :P

lennymon · Jun 12, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth

Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself.

As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything.

If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

just so you know, you've just admitted to using 3rd party software...

bilateralrope · Jun 12, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth

Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself.

As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything.

If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

Does this program just change the value your client sees, or does it actually alter the value stored on the servers ?

If the former it doesn't mean much (though ANET might want to speak with you), if the later you are clearly hacking the game.

Baratus · Dec 09, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Just a heads up to this. There IS a limit. This limit depends on the type of variable used to store the death-counter variable. Ranges follow.

char: -256 to 255
unsigned char: 0 to 511
short: -32768 to 32767
unsigned short: 0 to 65535
int: -2147483648 to 2147483647
unsigned int: 0 to 4294967295
long: -2147483648 to 2147483647
unsigned long: 0 to 4294967296

Note that these are 32bit values. Double those for 64bit, but GW is a 32bit game. I am a programmer and can tell you from past experience that they probably chose a plain old-fashioned integer value for the death-counter, or maybe an unsigned integer value. Either way, once you reach the max limit, it will reset to the lower limit. Maybe this would allow a player with a ton of deaths to start working on a survivor title!

Jun 10, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#1
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	Is their a max to deaths? Is their a max to to the amount of deaths you can get or no?

Jun 10, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#2
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	As far as i know, no there isn't. People that death-level have insane amounts of deaths

Jun 10, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#3
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	True, I've seen a pic wheir some one had like 99,999,999 or around their so I wasn't sure if that was the max or if he jsut stopped their :S.

Jun 10, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#4
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	Logically there wouldn't be a limit as it is just a tally. However, imagine if there was a Y2K thing and the count reset after 999,999,999,999, giving someone Legendary Survivor. Wouldn't that be funny?

Jun 10, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#5
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	That'd be funny, but getting 999,999,999,999 deaths is harder than Legendary Survivor :P

Jun 10, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21	#7
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	It would take too long. Assuming 1 second per death it'll take 3.17 millenium to get there :P

Jun 10, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56	#8
Kokuyougan Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Calhoun, GA Profession: E/	Not a maximum, per se, but there is a maximum limit on the penalty for deaths. (You get 15% DP per death, can be worked off by earning exp). The current maximum is 60% DP.

Jun 10, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26	#10
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	One guy posted a thread here where he celebrated his 1,000,000 death with a screen shot documenting the event. He did this by luring Minoutars in the Crystal desert to a rez shrine and AFK most of it.

Jun 11, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#11
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	I guess I'll just try this for fun lol, don't have much else to do.

Jun 11, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#12
Nero_Fayth Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: A very large, cozy virtual world.	Mmm as far as a max on deaths is concerned, you can edit ingame values client side by using a program called Tsearch. I assume it wouldn't be hard to determine a max value, but I'm too lazy atm to do it myself. As far as screens of deaths/experience/faction/fame/skill points and nearly any number in GW, they can be edited client side. For this reason alone I don't trust screens of anything. If I have some spare time later I'll find my screens of tsearch edited fame and faction and perhaps see if there is, in fact a max amount of deaths.

Jun 11, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#14
Aecum Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain Guild: The phoenix Knights (PxKs) Profession: E/Me	im just wondering if arenanet introduces a "zombie" title

Jun 11, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#15
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	It would be too easy to exploit and in essence would be another Defender of Ascalon title.

Dec 09, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27	#20
Baratus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Elizabethtown, NC Guild: Deathkings of The Dark Citadel Profession: D/Me	Just a heads up to this. There IS a limit. This limit depends on the type of variable used to store the death-counter variable. Ranges follow. char: -256 to 255 unsigned char: 0 to 511 short: -32768 to 32767 unsigned short: 0 to 65535 int: -2147483648 to 2147483647 unsigned int: 0 to 4294967295 long: -2147483648 to 2147483647 unsigned long: 0 to 4294967296 Note that these are 32bit values. Double those for 64bit, but GW is a 32bit game. I am a programmer and can tell you from past experience that they probably chose a plain old-fashioned integer value for the death-counter, or maybe an unsigned integer value. Either way, once you reach the max limit, it will reset to the lower limit. Maybe this would allow a player with a ton of deaths to start working on a survivor title!